
But that's the real problem with identity politics, is that it reduces people's identity - people's true identity - their character, their personality, their lived experiences - to these really thin abstractions. You've now got this whole - what I would consider asinine - cottage industry on the right that says that we need, essentially, an identity politics for white people. Our colleges teach people that they should simply think of themselves in racial categories or gender categories. And what they're retreating to are things like identity politics. GOLDBERG: People are retreating to their little cocoons.

The book is called "Suicide Of The West." His new book avoids partisan labels and explores how many people abandoned their faith in civil society - families, churches, governments and more. He's a political conservative who once wrote a book called "Liberal Fascism." Yet his dismay over tribalism and many conservatives' embrace of President Trump led him to a different approach.

His critics suggest Goldberg was part of the problem. Goldberg fears we are retreating to an older, more natural form of society - tribalism. INSKEEP: He says it's been hard to build a world of technology, and longer lives, and libraries and literacy - and for many people, security - and we could lose it. GOLDBERG: I start from a bunch of premises. So why is it important to you to tell us that the overwhelming majority of human progress has been in the last few hundred years? What's your point? INSKEEP: Nearly all human progress has come just since the 1700s. So on your 25th visit, you would come back, and your ship would be spotted by NORAD, and you would maybe get here just in time to see Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction at the Super Bowl. Come back in another 10,000 years, you would write, semihairless apes foraging and fighting for food no change. JONAH GOLDBERG: The first time you show up, you would write, semihairless apes foraging and fighting for food. You visit planet Earth each 10,000 years. Suppose you were an alien assigned to check in on human progress throughout human existence from the beginning. The writer Jonah Goldberg heard a notion from a scholar that got him thinking.
